tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29128991.post4839057960743344390..comments2023-10-10T09:50:34.565-07:00Comments on Find and Ye Shall Seek: Directed CreativityMystical Seekerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10828225180668865911noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29128991.post-77942265592445563842007-07-15T21:24:00.000-07:002007-07-15T21:24:00.000-07:00I often try to SEE without JUDGEMENT. Just to see...I often try to SEE without JUDGEMENT. Just to see what is before me as it is, for what it is. I enjoy the exercise and am always lifted in spirit for the purity.nahualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03897814178784873052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29128991.post-63614736587632570092007-07-15T14:46:00.000-07:002007-07-15T14:46:00.000-07:00The reason I believe that Divine creativity is dir...The reason I believe that Divine creativity is directed with a purpose is precisely because creativity without a purpose is empty of the virtues that I believe to be divine attributes, such as of love or justice; creativity can be directed towards all sorts of purposes, not all of them benign. Since I believe that love and justice are divine attributes, I can't see the point in saying that God is simply another name for creativity.Mystical Seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10828225180668865911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29128991.post-77986912741722982842007-07-15T10:25:00.000-07:002007-07-15T10:25:00.000-07:00mystical seeker that is my point. Creator, such as...mystical seeker that is my point. Creator, such as that force is, only cares what we do with our time and talents to the extent we get another opportunity to live and learn and improve. Opportunity is given with this life, and teachers, those that have interpreted the phenomena of their own perceptions,(ex: process theologians) are provided. We each have less than a cubic foot of grey matter to make our way forward and live the maxim that there are many paths to the top of the mountain. <BR/>IMHO if we need to see creativity has a purpose that's our human interpretation of our reality, not necessarily creativity's. As of course there are many interpretations of the same phenomena, if we can agree our interpretation and phenomena are separate and I feel they are not.nahualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03897814178784873052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29128991.post-86063321246824225972007-07-15T02:39:00.000-07:002007-07-15T02:39:00.000-07:00Very interesting thoughts by all here.I am enjoyin...Very interesting thoughts by all here.<BR/><BR/>I am enjoying the sensation of cogitation it is producing in me.<BR/><BR/>I can't see reducing God to creativity alone, but, I can see it is a very important aspect of what is "God".episcopalifemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18092579249862725163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29128991.post-5285968163090650972007-07-14T10:53:00.000-07:002007-07-14T10:53:00.000-07:00Jan, the comment from Brian Swimme is interesting....Jan, the comment from Brian Swimme is interesting. From the little I know of quantum physics, I seem to recall that it is the case that small bits of subatomic matter springs up for infinitesimally small periods of time in vacuums and then disappears. It is almost like space is constantly bubbling with the creative urge.<BR/><BR/>Kay, also interesting thoughts from Matthew Fox. I do think that we are co-creators with God, and that our creativity and Divine creativity work hand in hand.<BR/><BR/>Nahual, mud pies and music are both manifestations of creativity in their own way. Process theology would say that God's directed creativity is specific to each event, unique to each moment and place and time. In this view, a creative event is a collaboration between three things: everything that has happened in the past up to the present moment; the experiencing occasion itself; and God. We have a choice at every moment to make a mud pie or write music, to make bombs or to make peace, to love or to hate. Every moment involves a choice. But some creative choices are bad. God's role is to offer the "initial aims" that suggest the idea action at a given moment, but of course at every moment those aims will be different. My guess is that God approves of mud pies from time to time. :)Mystical Seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10828225180668865911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29128991.post-48451739126147655592007-07-14T02:50:00.000-07:002007-07-14T02:50:00.000-07:00You say: "The point here is that this creativity i...You say: "The point here is that this creativity is not just creativity for creativity's sake; it is creativity with a purpose."<BR/><BR/>Who's purpose? Is it the same purpose for everyone? Don't we imbide purpose from the phenomena we are immersed into? <BR/><BR/>The ingredients are all here to realize mud pies or music.nahualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03897814178784873052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29128991.post-70421885153084313262007-07-12T17:29:00.000-07:002007-07-12T17:29:00.000-07:00Your unitive experience with God was beautiful. Al...Your unitive experience with God was beautiful. Also ironic, because of your seeming negation of "creativity." God of the Unexpected!<BR/><BR/>The concept of God being Creativity goes along with the lectures given by Brian Swimme, a cosmologist. Swimme spoke of Divine Creativity which is continually creating in the entire universe. It has been proved that in a complete vacuum, matter springs forth from the "nurturing abyss."<BR/><BR/>He said, "The essence of the universe is emergence, which is creative activity."<BR/><BR/>That seemed to connect with your experience and what you're saying.<BR/>Thank you.Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08061517211101084120noreply@blogger.com